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GOP Rep. Jim Jordan now says he ‘can’t recall’ how many times he spoke to Trump on January 6


Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan said Wednesday he can’t remember how many times he spoke to former President Donald Trump on Jan. 6th – the day of a ‘Stop the Steal’ rally where MAGA supporters breached the Capitol.

Jordan brought up the call or calls – he has acknowledged speaking to Trump in the past – at a Rules Committee hearing where he furiously defended the president as the House prepares to vote on a resolution to hold former Trump advisor Steve Bannon in criminal contempt. 

‘Of course I talked to the president,’ Jordan said during heated back-and-forth with panel chair Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.). 

‘I talked to him that day. I’ve been clear about that. I don’t recall the number of times, but it’s not about me. I know you want to make it about that,’ he said. 

‘I talked to him that day. I’ve been clear about that. I don’t recall the number of times,’ said Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), who has said previously he spoke to former President Trump on Jan. 6th

The confusion comes months after panel vice chair Rep. Liz Cheney said the Jan. 6th select committee may call Jordan to testify as a ‘material witness’ about what he knows of the president’s activities that day. 

Jordan in August told Politico he spoke to Trump ‘more than once,’ that day, when a source said the lawmakers urged the president to tell his reporters to stand down. 

The outlet reported that Jordan and Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz. both Trump ultra-loyalists, called the president from a safe room after lawmakers were evacuated from the House chamber during the riot.

‘Look, I definitely spoke to the president that day. I don’t recall — I know it was more than once, I just don’t recall the times,’ he said. 

McGovern read back Jordan’s prior quotes on the subject, and asked him whether he was able to respond 84 days after his first comments about it when he spoke to Trump.

‘When did you speak with the former president on January 6th? Did you talk to the former president before, during or after the attack on the Capitol or was it all three?’ McGovern asked. 

‘This is about the lack of a proper security presence that day,’ he said.

Pressed again, Jordan responded: ‘I talked to the president after the attack. And I’ve been clear about that.’ Pressed on his Politico comments, Jordan said: ‘No, I didn’t speak to the president during the attack.’ McGovern told Jordan ‘your name comes up again again in regard to efforts to overturn the election’ in comments by Trump. 

After McGovern read back Jordan’s prior quotes, he also agreed that he spoke to Trump from a safe room on Jan. 6th. ‘Yeah, after the thing – that’s what I said,’ he responded.’ 

Jordan, who was appearing as a witness, then tried to turn the tables by asking McGovern about his own objections to a state’s electoral vote count in 2017. 

House minority leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy was reported to have had a shouting phone call with Trump where he pleaded with him to tell his supporters to go home while hundreds of people clashed with police and rampaged through the Capitol. 

Jordan got into a tense exchange with Rules chair Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.)

Jordan got into a tense exchange with Rules chair Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.)

In July, Jordan told Spectrum News he spoke with Trump Jan. 6.  ”I spoke with him that day, after?’ He continued: ‘I think after. I don’t know if I spoke with him in the morning or not. I just don’t know. … I don’t know when those conversations happened.’ 

Cheney told ABC’s ‘Good Morning America’ in July, speaking of Jordan: ‘He’s somebody who was involved in a number of meetings in the lead-up to what happened on January 6th, involved in planning for January 6th, certainly for the objections that day as he said publicly, so he may well be a material witness.’

The House Rules Committee voted for a procedure for the House to hold former chief White House strategist Steven Bannon in contempt of Congress – setting up a bitter floor clash for Thursday over the Jan. 6th riot and its aftermath.

A angry debate over the rule in the cramped Rules panel’s Capitol hearing room provided a preview for the pyrotechnics, Cheney (R-Wyo.) testifying about the ‘dark day in our history’ and urging the panel not to let Bannon ignore a subpoena.  

Cheney accused McCarthy of blocking a bipartisan commission to probe the Jan. 6th Capitol riot earlier this year and intimidating fellow Republican lawmakers as a House panel conducts its probe.  

‘I’ve heard from a number of my colleagues in the last several days who say they quote just don’t want this target on their back. They’re just trying to keep their heads down. They don’t want to anger Kevin McCarthy, the minority leader, who as been especially active in attempting to block the investigation of events of Jan. 6th, despite the fact that he clearly called for such a commission the week after the attack,’ she said.

House Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) at a Wednesday GOP conference meeting urged Republicans to vote ‘no’ on the Bannon contempt finding, CNN reported, signaling the debate will be yet another partisan clash. 

President Trump is asserting executive privilege, and has sued the Jan. 6th committee and its chairman Rep. Bennie Thompson, as well as the National Archives, over its record requests. He continues to rail against the inquiry as a ‘witch hunt.’

Scalise this spring urged Republicans to vote against establishing a bipartisan commission to probe Jan. 6th. Its failure in the Senate amid a Republican filibuster led to Pelosi’s creation of the select committee.  

At a Jan. 6th panel hearing Tuesday night, Cheney tore into Bannon.

‘Based on the committee’s investigation, it appears that Mr. Bannon had substantial advanced knowledge of the plans for January 6 and likely had an important role in formulating those plans,’ Cheney said at the hearing.

Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney accused House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy of blocking a bipartisan commission to probe the Jan. 6th Capitol riot and said fellow Republicans don't want a 'target on their back'

Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney accused House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy of blocking a bipartisan commission to probe the Jan. 6th Capitol riot and said fellow Republicans don’t want a ‘target on their back’

‘Mr. Bannon was in the war room at the Willard [hotel] on January 6th. He also appears to have detailed knowledge regarding the President’s efforts to sell millions of Americans the fraud that the election was stolen,’ she said. 

Cheney appeared at a tense House Rules Committee meeting over a measure to hold former chief White House strategist Steven Bannon in contempt for failing to appear before the select committee. 

Cheney brought up McCarthy, who she clashed with repeatedly after he backed an effort to strip away her leadership post following her criticism of former President Trump‘s election overturn effort.

She told fellow Republicans: ‘I ask each one of you to step back from the brink. I urge you to know what is right, to think of the long arc of history. We are told that it bends toward justice. But it does so only because of the actions of men and women in positions of public trust,’ she said. 

She brought up the Capitol riot, and told lawmakers in the televised hearing: ‘Will you be able to say you did everything possible to ensure Americans got the truth about those events?’ She called the contempt citation against Bannon ‘crucial to our investigation.’

Cheney has clashed repeatedly with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, who helped push her out as the No. 3 GOP leader

Cheney has clashed repeatedly with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, who helped push her out as the No. 3 GOP leader

President Donald Trump speaks during the 'Stop the Steal' rally Wednesday, Jan. 6, 2021, in Washington

President Donald Trump speaks during the ‘Stop the Steal’ rally Wednesday, Jan. 6, 2021, in Washington

She and McCarthy have clashed in the days since Jan. 6th, despite press reports that McCarthy got in a telephone screaming match with Trump while the Capitol was under siege. 

In July, McCarthy called Cheney and GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger ‘Pelosi Republicans.’ Cheney called the remark ‘pretty childish.’ 

Cheney told fellow lawmakers Wednesday: ‘This contempt citation is crucial for our investigation. Witnesses cannot simply ignore congressional subpoenas, when they prefer not to attend. We must do everything possible to understand that dark day in our history, and to ensure to potential legislative and other actions that such a thing never happens again.’

Former President Trump came in with another statement from his Save America PAC slamming Cheney, a day after trashing the late Secretary of State Colin Powell as a ‘RINO.’

‘Low-polling Liz Cheney (19%) is actually very bad news for the Democrats, people absolutely cannot stand her as she fights for the people that have decimated her and her father for many years,’ Trump said. ‘She is a smug fool, and the great State of Wyoming, together with the Republican Party, fully understands her act. To look at her is to despise her. Hopefully she will continue down this unsustainable path and she will soon be gone!’

At the hearing, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) clashed with panel chair Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.) over the citation.

‘We have condemned violence every stinking time it happened,’ said Jordan. ‘But it would have been nice if you guys had condemned the violence in the summer of 2020,’ referencing protests that broke out nationwide.

‘I think many of us did condemn it,’ said McGovern. 

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), like Jordan a Trump loyalist, said ‘all of this is ridiculous.’

He brought up Afghan refugees he said had no vetting, said there was a ‘turnstile’ on the border,’ and ‘supply chain issues.’

‘So many on the left talk about Trump being this savage against our institutions. And that our institutions are all going to fail because of Trump and the insurrectionist Republicans. But truly this is a case of projection. After the 2016 election, Democrats repeatedly called Trump an illegitimate president. They damaged the institution of our electoral process by claiming that Trump was a Russian agent. How phony and fake that all turned out to be.’ 



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